Trivia Being Woke 2024

[Asherah Goddess]

I think mahirap makipagtalo or makipag-argue sa isang lalake or isang babae na meron patriarchal mentality? Dahil ang worldview talaga nila is none other than androcentrism and kapag sinabi androcentrism, iyan ang itinatawag nila na male worldview.

And kapag sinabi nito na male worldview, ito lang ang masasabi ko, nakatutok lamang sila sa gender binary at ang gender binary po, you see , meron silang gender ideology at ang gender ideology po is meron itong concept na men and women are different in biological and roles , the traditional gender role between men and women po.

Literal speaking, ang ganyan klaseng view ay hindi na po sila pwede umalis sa ikinalalagyan po nila. Based on nakikita ko po, pagdating sa ability , strength and mentality na meron either sa lalake at babae po ay it seems na hindi po nila ipinakakatiwalaan kung ano ang maaari kaya nitong gawin as a gender. Wala silang tiwala. As in. Ganun lang ka simple iyon. Like for example. Ang babae na nagcompete pagdating sa car racing when it comes sa male car competition , halimbawa lang naman. Automatic, maiisip ng tao na 'itong babae ay hindi mananalo sa competition dahil pagdating sa speed at talino, mas palalo ang lalake.' - Tawag po diyan ay sexism sapagkat ini-aangat po ang isang gender to other gender dahil based on gender, wala po itong kakayahan ang gender ng babae po, iyon ang view ng mga tao sa gender ng babae po. Nagbabased lang po kasi ito on biological gender pero hindi binabasehan ng tao kung ano ang kakayahan ng gawin ng isang babae. Hindi nakatingin ang tao kung ano ang pwede niya o maaari gawin bilang babae pagdating sa kanyang abilidad o ano pa man unless mapatunayan, para ma get rid ang sexism po against sa babae po.

Ang problema, hindi naman nabibigyan ng chances ma unleash ang meron sa babae and hindi rin nabibigyan ng pagkakataon ang lalake kung ano ang gusto nito gawin dahil nakalimit na sa kanila ang ini-expect na role sa kanilang dalawa.

And dahil dito, alam ko na mahaba ito, pero bare with me kung kaya lang naman. Dahil sa ganyan ideology na meron sa gender , huwag na tayo magtaka kung bakit para makapag-fit in sa expected role na inaasahan ng mga tao as a whole , andiyan na po kung bakit meron na nagpapalit ng gender biologically. What I mean na nagkakaisip ang tao na etransform ang kanyang whole body feature as a man just to be fit in galing sa expected ng mga tao, dahil nga, people expect that a woman like her na sasali sa male car competition will never win.

It is not their fault kung bakit naging ganoon sila and kung ang sasabihin na meron gender dysphoria po, well, the reason why nagkakaroon sila ng gender dysphoria because tao rin ang nagtulak kung bakit naging ganun sila.

And we also cannot blame why nagkaroon ng existing lesbians , gays , transgender man , transgender woman , bisexual male , bisexual female at maraming iba pa. Ayaw nila magconform sa mga ganyan napaka-rigid expected role na need gawin ng babae at ng lalake dahil based on biological gender ng women ay meron designated role ito based sa inaasahan sa kanya ng mga tao. The same sa biological gender ng men. Kung kaya, sana nawa ay intindihin na lang kung bakit hindi talaga sila magcoconform sa ideology ng gender binary po. Euunleash pa rin po nila kung ano ang naturaliza na meron sa kanila.

Ngayon, pagdating sa sports. Ito ang insights ko at na ve-view ko as a whole. Since gusto ng same opportunities at magkaroon ng equal, una, hindi ko rin masisisi if meron babae na sumali sa sports ng men or men na gusto sumali sa sports ng women which is ang mga transgender po, kasi nga, ayaw po nila etreat sila as hindi kabilang sa normal, they think or they want to be part ng norms like ginagawa ng mga heterosexual. Like heterosexual men na pagdating ng sports katulad ng wrestling, weightlifting and so on and so forth. Same with heterosexual women.

Kasi nga equality nga diba? Hindi ko sila masisisi. Ngayon if meron nagcocomplain na keyso lagi raw nananalo ang men sa sports competition , I think disagree ako sapagkat meron babae na nanalo na po sa men sports competition and I remember sa motorcycle po. Hindi ko lang alam ang tawag doon. Magaling siya magperform. Nalimutan ko din ang name. Meron nga ako video na upload dito dati. Hindi ko na po mahanap. Championship po siya.

Ngayon pagdating sa tagisan ng physical strength, meron sports- well, actually, malakas po kase ang ambience ng masculine dito sa culture na meron tayo, para sa akin, meron solusyon. It is either na eseparate ang sports para sa mga transgender po or there is hope na ma change ang situation na maybe, next sports, malalo ang isa sa babae, who knows? Or better tanggalin ang lahat ng sports na meron kilalaman sa physical strength since malakas ang ambience ng masculine po in our environment. Ang sports lang na pwede eremain is tagisan ng talino po or anything na align sa babae po kung saan magiging open din siya sa lalake po at kahit sinong transgender po.

Again. Meron problema na naman. Kapag ganoon ang suggestion ko, malamang sa malamang, hindi na po patriarchal ang kalalabasan ng atin lipunan at kultura. Magiging matriarchal na siya malamang. Biruin na tanggalin lahat ng sports na meron kilalaman sa physical strength... o diba? Ano ang magiging negative reaction ng mga tao? Kase, kapag tinanggal ang lahat ng sports na meron kilalaman sa physical strength, e di magiging fluid ang gender mismo natin. Pwede na maka-access diyan ang transgender woman sa sports ng babae and pwede na rin maka-access ang transgender man sa sports ng lalake.

Iyon nga lang ang problema. Hindi sila papayag malamang.

Ang housewife naman itinutukoy, meron traditional feminist po. Ang pagkakaalam ko sa traditional feminist po ay gusto ng rights na kahit nasa bahay sila, well, gusto nito magkaroon ng balance kahit nagtatrabaho sa labas. Ayaw nila na lahat eaasa sa kanila ang gawain bahay. Ang gusto po nila na ang lalake din po ay kailangan part siya pagdating sa gawain bahay. So hindi masama kung housewife po.



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[GildartsTale]

Because men are stronger as a whole, it does not mean it is wrong for them to be compassionate and soft. And because women are generally compassionate, it doesn't mean it will be wrong for them to refuse these roles. Sabi mo nga they can choose otherwise. So what is the issue then with gender identification? What is so foul when, let's say, a *******t person identifying as a man? Where exactly is the point that you feel they are asking for too much?

I never said it is wrong for men to be compassionate and soft, even I grow up in a rock 'n roll and heavy metal environment, but now listening so melodic soft love songs. Kaya nga sinabi ko otherwise.

Kasi nga that's misleading the a prëgnant person identify as a man. Okay sana that they say a woman identify as a man being prëgnant. Feeling a man or some seasons, wolf kin does not make you one. Just like we can't say I identify as lawyer when you are not a graduate of law. Or some grown man, identify as a 6 years old child. Are we just going to justify this kind of behavior, because wether we like it or not those extremes is happening when we suddenly allow even the most obvious stuff.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Sabi nagkaroon raw ng extreme dahil sobra na raw ang rigid ng conservative ideology. Hindi na raw nakakayanan. Sabi lang naman.​

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Kasi nga that's misleading the a prëgnant person identify as a man. Okay sana that they say a woman identify as a man being prëgnant. Feeling a man or some seasons, wolf kin does not make you one. Just like we can't say I identify as lawyer when you are not a graduate of law. Or some grown man, identify as a 6 years old child. Are we just going to justify this kind of behavior, because wether we like it or not those extremes is happening when we suddenly allow even the most obvious stuff.

They are leading you towards the socialization they prefer. Paano naging misleading? Malamang ibang usapan ang lawyer at 6 yr old. These are not functions of socialization. And again cherry picking the extremes into a slippery slope argument. Even gender rights supporters undertand that this is wrong and it is a mockery of the movement which is why this is not mainstream. Still, though they interpret this wrong, at least they do not pretend that the existing imposed gender roles are natural and static.

Tingin ko ang underlying issue sa argument mo is when dishonest and irresponsible people take advantage of these changes. But this problem is not unique here. Dishonest people also took advantage of the current homophobia in society.. they will take advantage of the rules in society no matter what.

If you are sincere in saying that it is okay for people to choose otherwise, you know you are merely nitpicking on labels at these point. Why does it matter to you what other people want to themselves to be called?

 

[hardcorepoetry]

Ang lungkot ng world ng mga spoiled barbie brats

 

[GildartsTale]

They are leading you towards the socialization they prefer. Paano naging misleading? Malamang ibang usapan ang lawyer at 6 yr old. These are not functions of socialization. And again cherry picking the extremes into a slippery slope argument. Even gender rights supporters undertand that this is wrong and it is a mockery of the movement which is why this is not mainstream. Still, though they interpret this wrong, at least they do not pretend that the existing imposed gender roles are natural and static.

Tingin ko ang underlying issue sa argument mo is when dishonest and irresponsible people take advantage of these changes. But this problem is not unique here. Dishonest people also took advantage of the current homophobia in society.. they will take advantage of the rules in society no matter what.

If you are sincere in saying that it is okay for people to choose otherwise, you know you are merely nitpicking on labels at these point. Why does it matter to you what other people want to themselves to be called?

You don't understand what I said about otherwise, being soft and hard does not mean you can identify as such as such. Your still man with feminine characteristic so does your still a women with masculine characteristics.

The labels are important kasi we need distinction to what constitute reality. You can identity as gay/lesbian, I was okay with that until we have this lgbtq++++ pronounce nonsense.

I think it should be okay but they are forcing people to call them by their nonsense. Just like what happened to Canada.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Ang lungkot ng world ng mga spoiled barbie brats​

Hindi sila fit in sa kultura ng Kristianismo o they are not belong in a Christian society po. Kung kaya nakakalungkot nga po. Hindi sila spoiled. Wala lang sila sa pwesto po sa loob ng lipunan and so, limited pa rin ang rights

Ang nagugunita ko, nababagay sila sa kultura ng mga Pagano although diversified po sila, magkakaiba po, mas free sila doon. Malaya.

Iba ang moral at ethics ng Christian society po. Iba. Nakatutok lang talaga ang mga tao sa gender binary bilang normal though, naging acceptable ang lgbt or mga homosexual po, limited ang rights na nakikita ko dahil sa na peperceive ko ay iba ang moral at ethics talaga ng Christian society as a whole.

Ako nga. Umalis. Hindi ako nagcoconform kung ano inaasahan sa akin ng mga tao on how I behave as a woman. But biologically, woman po ako. Meron pa nga nagsabi sa akin na kesyo in the bible, a woman daw must be submissive. Sa akin, no need makipag enkwentro or makipagdebate, if not happy and satisfied, better umalis.

Simple lang.​

 

[EriX-Zone]

Hindi lang nman Christian nainis sa rudeness of expression na ginawa ng mga ka federasyon nyo, iba kayo noon sa ngayon, hence the reaction.
Kahit nga mismo sa inyo samahan kinondena mga ganoong expresyon.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Hayaan na lang ang gusto gawin ng LGBT or whatever. Hindi naman sila nananakit. Freedom of expression nila kung gusto nila na season-season gender or whatever. Bakit kasi sinusuppress? Bakit ba kasi pinipigilan? Hindi naman babagsak ang society ng heterosexual as a whole. Hindi naman magbabago ang norms, kasi, alam natin ang paninindigan ng mga tao na meron konsepto ng gender binary, hindi matitinag. Iyon na kase ang na program sa mind nila na normal ang lalake at babae lamang.

Let them be. Pasalamat nga sila, heteronormative society ang acceptable bilang normal at maipamamana pa sa anak ng magiging anak. While the other side, hirap na hirap. Kahit babae ako, minsan struggling din ako. Nag-iingat pa ako sa kung ano ebebehave ko of what is being a woman na acceptable sa tao na makakakita sa akin lalo na kapag offline world.

Andoon ang point na minsan nahihirapan na ako maging babae.​

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

The labels are important kasi we need distinction to what constitute reality.

That understanding of label is only sufficient if we are talking about things. Pero sa usapan sociology, it is important to understand the ethical difference in you labeling someone else versus them labelling themself. Consider the label "indio" na ginamit ng mga kastila satin, at label na "nigger" na gamit ng mga puti, they can also say that they are just using the label to emphasize the distinction in reality like you are saying.

I think it should be okay but they are forcing people to call them by their nonsense. Just like what happened to Canada.

Of course that is how you frame it. Pero, why is it better if you force them to use the pronouns that as YOU see fit? Why are you so offended by letting minorities express themselves in public with dignity? In essence, you are merely trying to preserve your ability to publicly verbally oppress them. they are not things that you are free to label according to your wish regardless of if that is the social norm.

Here is a question that might get you thinking and I dont intend you to answer it because i do not have an absolute answer. What makes you an intelligent being, is it the your conformance to the norms or the exercise of power to change the norm?

 

[GildartsTale]

That understanding of label is only sufficient if we are talking about things. Pero sa usapan sociology, it is important to understand the ethical difference in you labeling someone else versus them labelling themself. Consider the label "indio" na ginamit ng mga kastila satin, at label na "nigger" na gamit ng mga puti, they can also say that they are just using the label to emphasize the distinction in reality like you are saying.

I will still stand to what I already said. The gender nonsense a thousand or more pronounce is nonsense. There is gay, lesbian, trans thats it.

Of course that is how you frame it. Pero, why is it better if you force them to use the pronouns that as YOU see fit? Why are you so offended by letting minorities express themselves in public with dignity? In essence, you are merely trying to preserve your ability to publicly verbally oppress them. they are not things that you are free to label according to your wish regardless of if that is the social norm.

Here is a question that might get you thinking and I dont intend you to answer it because i do not have an absolute answer. What makes you an intelligent being, is it the your conformance to the norms or the exercise of power to change the norm?

Lol, I can flip that again, why is it better for them to force those words to us that THEY see fit? Why are they so offended that the majority does not like it? These are not the things that they should force using legislation.

I refuse to answer that since, I can't fully comprehend the question.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

why is it better for them to force those words to us that THEY see fit?

Because these pronouns are referring to them and not you. Simple. It was an effort for inclusivity.

Languages can function without gendered pronoun. Many languages do, gaya nlng ng tagalog. How can you prove that the distinction is vital?

Kung nanood ka nung anime na one piece, doon sa part na inintroduce yung anak ni Kaido, it even produced an unnecessary confusion sa dubbed vesion because of the western closemindedness produced by gendered language.

 

[GildartsTale]

Because these pronouns are referring to them and not you. Simple. It was an effort for inclusivity.

Languages can function without gendered pronoun. Many languages do, gaya nlng ng tagalog. How can you prove that the distinction is vital?

Kung nanood ka nung anime na one piece, doon sa part na inintroduce yung anak ni Kaido, it even produced an unnecessary confusion sa dubbed vesion because of the western closemindedness produced by gendered language.

Kaya nga it is only to them. Not to us. Then why force it to us. They should just do that to them circles.

Not a fan with one piece so I can vouch sa issues nayan.

The issue is free speech. They are allowed to use that to them circles, not to force it to someone else.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Kaya nga it is only to them. Not to us. Then why force it to us. They should just do that to them circles.

Not a fan with one piece so I can vouch sa issues nayan.

Because most pronouns are meant to be used by society towards the individual. Ang engot naman kung lilimitahan mo ang pronouns sa self reference. Besides, you can take your opinion in private and in proper forums, not in random people just living their life.

For context sa One Piece, the anime introduced Yamato, a female character who identifies as a specific person who happens to be a male. It all made sense in the Japanese language, but the gendered pronouns caused confusion in the english translation.

So why should we be concernned about proper gendering of pronouns, kung sa Filipino naman, we don't need them? If you think critically, it shows how language shape how we view reality. If we we reverse the concept, your prefered gendered norms is nothing but a product of the language and social constructs born from western colonialism..

 

[GildartsTale]

Because most pronouns are meant to be used by society towards the individual. Ang engot naman kung lilimitahan mo ang pronouns sa self reference. Besides, you can take your opinion in private and in proper forums, not in random people just living their life.

For context sa One Piece, the anime introduced Yamato, a female character who identifies as a specific person who happens to be a male. It all made sense in the Japanese language, but the gendered pronouns caused confusion in the english translation.

So why should we be concernned about proper gendering of pronouns, kung sa Filipino naman, we don't need them? If you think critically, it shows how language shape how we view reality. If we we reverse the concept, your prefered gendered norms is nothing but a product of the language and social constructs born from western colonialism..

Kaya nga nandito ako sa forum nato. Hindi naman ako in public places na nag sasabi sa mga issues nato sa kahit sinong tao.

Wether we like it or not the infuence sa west sa modern world is so big. Anong nangyayari doon it will eventually be here sooner or later. Kaya nga again, I am concerned kasi those are almost hundreds or hundreds of gender pronouns and most of them are nonsense, again, and I don't want my government to control my own speech since I am for free speech. Unless we become a communist country then goodbye PH.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Kaya nga nandito ako sa forum nato. Hindi naman ako in public places na nag sasabi sa mga issues nato sa kahit sinong tao.

Wether we like it or not the infuence sa west sa modern world is so big. Anong nangyayari doon it will eventually be here sooner or later. Kaya nga again, I am concerned kasi those are almost hundreds or hundreds of gender pronouns and most of them are nonsense, again, and I don't want my government to control my own speech since I am for free speech. Unless we become a communist country then goodbye PH.

How did we get to communism? If you look at the totallity of your view, there are weak connections that only makes sense in ignorance. It is nothing but a manufactured rhetoric built on fallacious thoughts.

The nonsense-ness of the hundreds of gendered pronouns highlights the nonsenseness of the need to have distinct gender in pronouns. Again, Philippines do not even use gendered pronouns. So you should really be on the side of how stupid it is that the west need to do that. It is really just the underlying religious basis that connects you to these western conservative.

 

[GildartsTale]

How did we get to communism? If you look at the totallity of your view, there are weak connections that only makes sense in ignorance. It is nothing but a manufactured rhetoric built on fallacious thoughts.

The nonsense-ness of the hundreds of gendered pronouns highlights the nonsenseness of the need to have distinct gender in pronouns. Again, Philippines do not even use gendered pronouns. So you should really be on the side of how stupid it is that the west need to do that. It is really just the underlying religious basis that connects you to these western conservative.

Again, don't force your assumptions to me. Not religious connection but conservatism. Or you don't know what conservative's really stands for kasi your so simping with the left ideology.

Wether you like it or not it will eventually happened here. Pino-promote nanga ng mga left community here sa Pinas.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Again, don't force your assumptions to me. Not religious connection but conservatism. Or you don't know what conservative's really stands for kasi your so simping with the left ideology.

You are not even being critical of your view. I was a conservative for a good while. I used the same arguments you are making. Your blindness actually reminds me of my blindness. It is so easy to make up an explanation in your mind that opposition are just simping, because, then you don't have to think about it. I know firsthand the discomfort of questioning ones own views.

Wether you like it or not it will eventually happened here. Pino-promote nanga ng mga left community here sa Pinas.

So what if the liberal ideas reach the philippines? More ideas ia better than repeating the same thing that don't work.You are so busy putting on labels on groups of people that disagree to your view noh? The left community, the delusionals, the simps, the communists, drag queens,. How long are you going to depend on the labels with negative connotations to mischaracterize your the opposite view. It would be nice if you can use reasoning instead.